It’s legal but you wouldn’t think so.
Last year with very little fanfare, New York ushered in the opening of several sportsbook operators. The results – an absolutely minuscule sports betting turnover that has been trickling in like a little creek in a harsh Aussie drought… trickle, trickle, trickle.
Sports wagering has been coming through at a disappointing average of $2 million per month since launch. Translate that to an approximate $500k of gross profit per month and operators would be projected to only just breaking even at years end at best.
Yes, I admit the market is still in its infancy, but still, the wagering results are bad! B. A. D. – BAD.
Top 3 New York Sportsbook Online
New York Sports Betting Legality
You would think that, because sports betting is legal and offered upstate sports bettors would be rushing to place a few big ones. Well… guess what, there’s a few delusional casino operators and analysts that thought that.
New York legalized the operation of sport books via upstate casinos only. This limited licencing to four commercial casinos and the rest being native American (A total of only 10 permitted to operate). The lawmakers, furthermore did not approve online and mobile sports betting, in an attempt to funnel sports bettors to the land based casinos.
Why isn’t it popular?
Firstly, the state only permitted up state New York casinos to offer sport bets. The majority of sport fans who want to bet reside in New York City. There is no compelling reason for them to spend hours driving up north just to place a bet (especially when NJ is so much closer).
Gambling analysts failed to realize, sports bettors are not like casino players. For most, it’s the love of sport that matters most, augmented by the possibility of placing a bet. Sport bettors aren’t going to flock to casinos simply because they have four sports kiosks and a tiny sports bar. They just want to watch the game and place a bet and that’s it. The accessories of slot machines, casino table games, poker and other games – they are of no interest to them. Up state casinos are too far away. It’s too much of a hassle, too much of a chore. Why bother.
To be honest, do the casino operators seem to care? It doesn’t appear to be so. Their marketing of their sports books have been relatively poor. It would seem that the intent of opening a sports books is to appease the pro sports betting advocates, rather than to provide a true offering.
Exacerbating this issue is neighboring New Jersey, which was alluded to early. New York City residents are taking the more convenient option of going across the border to placing bets and ducking back out. Many articles have been written about the dangers that this is causing to the roads and to the public. New Jersey allows mobile betting and though many New Yorkers have tried to beat the GeoLocation systems, they are forced to be physically located within the borders of NJ to place a bet.
So, what better way, than to drive to the borders of NJ place a quick bet then duck back into New York. Naturally the borderline between NJ and NY has been a hot bed of activity. It had been estimated that approximately one fifth of NJ sports betting wagers come from New Yorkers. This is an astounding amount given that NJ has over $500m of turn over a month.
Are they going to allow mobile sports betting in NY?
In 2020 there will be several attempts to legalize mobile sports betting. However there are many that oppose this option. In particular the up state casinos. The up state casinos have a lot of clout in state politics, and without an arrangement that sees their advantage improve or at the very least remain, mobile sports betting in NY will not become a reality. It just won’t happen.
Other forms of sports betting
On a good note Daily fantasy sports is legal in New York. As well as Horse racing.
New York Online Sports Betting
Unbeknownst to many, online sports betting has been occurring for many years.
New York sports betting turnover for 2019 was $91.9 million, wagered via online sport betting sites.
These online sport betting sites are offshore and are open accept US players.
Is this illegal?
It is a gray area. The current state laws do not clearly articulate whether gambling offshore online is illegal or not. Therefore, you will find many online sports books (and online casinos) accepting US players from states that have ambiguous gambling laws – New York is one of those states.
Is it dangerous?
There are two aspects to this question.
Firstly, will you get caught or fined?
I highly doubt it. Till this day, there has been no precedence of anyone being charged with breaking the law for playing at offshore online sports betting books or offshore online casinos.
Secondly, are offshore sports betting books trustworthy and reliable?
Very much so. They have been operating in the market for many years and sports betting is a clear cut outcome (when compared to online casino games). It’s therefore extremely difficult to argue that an outcome of a sports bet is wrong.
How can I find an online Sports Book?
The most popular offshore sports book is Bovada. It is the largest and has a long standing history of operating a sports book for US citizens.
Do NOT place a bet at an unlicensed sports book operating offshore. Unlicensed sportsbooks may not be reliable. Although they may offer great Welcome Bonuses, their promise to pay any winnings may be empty. Keep with the trusted, big brand names.
How can I place a Sports Bet onshore?
It is illegal to run a sports book unless you are licensed or place a sports bet within the borders at Upstate New York. Other than placing a sports bet at an offshore online sports book the only other option is to travel interstate to New Jersey where perhaps it is much closer and betting can be conducted via online and mobile.
Upstate New York Sportsbooks
The leader of the New York Casino Sportsbooks is easily the Rivers Casino, holding a comfortable 45%.
Del Lago at just above half the share of Rivers has partnered with DraftKings is sits comfortably at second.
Surprisingly Tioga Downs who has partnered with the very well known FanDuel is far behind at fourth.
1 Rush St, Schenectady, New York
Holding the highest market share of the sport betting wagers in the state is the Rivers Casino. The Rivers sports center is probably the best to go to if you are looking for luxury. They have VIP chairs, private booths for your own special group occasions, a massive LED walls of multiple screens to view from.
They have betting windows and kiosks which are available 24/7.
1133 NY-414, Waterloo, New York
A quiet start at this venue. Hasn’t drawn in the customers as expected. And thus, the food isn’t too crash hot.
They got great facilities though. Four betting windows and 23 touch screen kiosks available 24/7.
888 Resorts World Dr, Monticello, New York
Resorts World Catskills is one of the largest casinos in Up state New York. And now it also has one of the largest sportsbooks.
Sportsbook 360 is the name of the sports bar and it is massive. 6,000 sq ft of sports betting with a bar in the center. Around the bar is 360 degrees of screens making a completing viewing.
Has 14 betting kiosks and one betting window.
2384 W River Rd, Nichols, New York
This new sports betting center is awesome. Has 8 betting windows for those who need assistance with placing a bet, but no touch screen kiosks.
Located near the front of the casino, if you are looking for a quick duck in to place a bet.
5218 Patrick Rd, Verona, New York
The Turning Stone sportsbook is a partnership with Caesars Sports. It is a complete package.
Massive full LED screens, live odds displayed, super plush lounge and a very sharp looking bar.
They offer bets on all the professional games, in particular the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL.
450 NY-31, Bridgeport, New York
Also partnering Caesar’s Lounge is Point Place. Part of the recently expanded casino, this sports bar has it all.
24 foot high wall of screening, plenty of smaller tv screens, VIP seating, a wide variety of beers and cocktails.
800 W Genesee St, Chittenango, New York
The Lounge with Caesars Sports also is available at Yellow Brick Road. As usual it emits quality and class in entertainment.
Open late hours to midnight or to 2am, you can be assured you will be able to watch all the big games. YBR is proud to say they have the largest sportsbook in NY state.
873 NY-37, Hogansburg, New York
The latest sportsbook to be launched is at Akwesasne Mohawk Casino. The actual sports bar is called Sticks Sports Book and Grill. Has both betting windows and touch screen kiosks.
Too early to say whether this will be extremely popular as it only just launched in late Jan 2020.
Overview of New York Sports Bars
New York has plenty of sports bars that have quality sport viewing screens, cold ice beer and easy to eat comfort food. We cannot cover them all, but provide a review of the most popular ones for you.
New York Sport Bars
212 W 79th St, New York, New York
The best chicken wings, hands down! Delicately fried with the perfect blend of crispy chicken skin and juicy tender meat off the bone, plus add on top their tasty sauce. Why even bother watching the sports. Just come here for the chicken wings! Nah, impossible! Sports TVs surround the sports bar, with sport events being shown all the time. Every seat is a good viewing seat. A good selection of beers, though not too many local craft beers. Can be a little pricey, but you get what you pay for in being located at UWS. Come here for the chicken wing and of course the sport.
750 Grand St, Brooklyn, New York
Nice local sports bar with a college kind of atmosphere. Lots of regulars seem to visit this joint. Prices are reasonable for NY. Plenty of viewing screens. Bartender waiters and waitresses are all very friendly. NO food is sold here, only drinks and viewing available. You can bring your own food in, which is not too bad, but a bit of a hassle. Nevertheless the atmosphere is really great.
12 Avenue A, New York, New York
Kelly’s (Buffalo Bills) is one of the most popular sports bar in town for hockey lovers. They show all the hockey games! The TV viewing is plentiful, you won’t miss any of the action. Plus a good variety of beers on tap and in bottle. Caters for a few local breweries and has a few of the international brands as well. Menu is a little limited. Come here if you are a big hockey fan.
1003 2nd Ave, New York, New York
A nice little sports bar for Redskins and Iowa Hawkeye fans. Can hold a private function if you need to. They have a lower level / basement which can hold up to 15 people, so if you have a group, call up in advance and book. The bartenders are awesome as with the service, really fast and friendly. They have fried Oreos if you are game enough to give that a try.
18 W 33rd St, New York, New York
Around the corner from MSG and beside the Empire State building is this ancient old Irish pub with heaps of memorabilia. And I mean heaps! History is alive here and you can relive memories from the past of baseball. A really wonderful and historic Irish pub. The bartender is a blast, very entertaining. Live jazz bands occasionally play here, bringing vibrance. A very classic but still trendy atmosphere. Come here for the history of baseball.
Popular New York Sport Bets
- NFL – New York has one NFL team, the New York Giants.
- NBA – New York has two NBA basketball teams, the New York Knicks and Brooklyn Nets.
- MLB – New York has two Major League Baseball teams, the New York Mets and New York Yankees.
- NHL – New York has three NHL ice hockey teams, the Buffalo Sabres, New York Islanders and New York Rangers.
Sports Betting New York Knicks (NBA)
The New York Knicks is one of the most beloved NBA teams. A loyal fan base that include celebrities such as Spike Lee, they have been suffering through several years of not reaching the playoffs. Owner Jim Dolan, is apparently a monster to work for, almost in the same vein as “The Office”. Poor management is clearly to blame.
Currently languishing third last in the Eastern Conference, they simply suck. Some predicted that they would be at least competitive this year, but they are everything but it. They have no star players, no team work and no on court leader. Perhaps too early to know, but their top pick draft pick of RJ Barrett hasn’t yet proven to be the foundation that the team can build on – a free throw percentage hovering is the mid 60’s is not good enough. In addition to the lack of player cohesion, the Knick’s replaced that head coach mid-season.
Want to place a bet on the Knicks? Then bet on the opposing team to win. However, value will be very low and it often won’t be worth placing a bet on their games. If anything, try and pick the upset – which at time of writing in one in a million.
Sports Betting Brooklyn Nets (NBA)
Why have you traded for Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant when you had a good thing going last year? I like head coach Kenny Atkinson, and I believe he had the influence to create a competitive team in the previous season. If he was involved in the decision making in acquiring Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant, then he must have gotten desperate and decided to take the gamble. A gamble with the odds stacked firmly against him to succeed.
Kyrie Irving is one of the best guards in the league. There is not many that would disagree with that, but his attitude and comments that turn fellow team mates against him depletes team morale and leads to disunity. The gamble to see if it could have worked with Irving on the team is akin to playing Powerball – it’s highly unlikely that it will pay off.
Kevin Durant was injured in the the previous seasons play off and is rehabilitating after undergoing surgery on his torn Achilles. Expected to return next season, it leaves this season as another one to tank. The strategy to tank, could destroy morale further in preparation for next season. There is too much downside and limited upside with the gamble taken by the Brooklyn Net’s organization.
Sports Betting New York Giants (NFL)
Eli Manning has been the David who has taken down the Goliath, twice! Stealing Super Bowl wins from the New England Patriots, he is calm, personable and trusted in the team. However, he is hanging up his boots, making way for someone new. Many conversations now talk of whether Manning should belong in the Hall of Fame, rather than team rebuild for the following season. Let’s hope that the Giants remain competitive after losing a reliable sturdy veteran.
Sports Betting New York Rangers (NHL)
The New York Rangers share the same stadium as the New York Knicks – Madison Square Garden. At mid season they are stringing together a few good wins after a slow start. The Rangers are the strongest of teams and are fighting for a playoff berth. This season they have surprised many with their mid season surge, giving good value to sport bettors who picked them to cause a few upsets.
Sports Betting New York Yankees (MLB)
The New York Yankees is the second highest valued team in the US behind the Dallas Cowboys – valued at a whopping $4.6 billion! They have won the most World Championships at 27 and have several Hall of Famers – Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra.